Tuesday, November 3, 2015

Fitting new Pistons and Rings

As mentioned earlier the pistons were in bad shape and needed to be replaced with new ones. The cylinder walls were also scratched and in need of some boring and honing.

Partly melted piston Yamaha RD125 A 1974
Partly melted piston Yamaha RD125 A 1974

Partly melted piston Yamaha RD125A 1974
Partly melted piston Yamaha RD125

Scratched piston Yamaha RD125A
Damaged piston Yamaha RD125A

So I brought the barrels to Sam Milton, and after measuring they told me I could get away with 1st oversize (43.25) pistons. Original ones are pretty hard to find these days but luckily I found a new set on Ebay and bought the piston rings in France.

Yamaha RD125 - 466-11635-01 pistons
Yamaha RD125 466-11635-01 pistons

Yamaha RD125A 466-11635-01 piston inside
Yamaha RD125 466-11635-01 piston inside

Yamaha RD125 466-11635-01 piston top
Yamaha RD125 466-11635-01 piston top

Later Yamaha RD125A 307-11601-11 rings
Later Yamaha RD125A 307-11601-11 rings

When searching for new piston rings make sure you know what you're looking for; The earlier AS3/RD125A pistons (part number 396-11635-00 ) go with the 396-11610-00 rings (so called Dykes / "L" section rings) while the 307-11601-11 rings for the later 466-11635-01 piston are "square" section. The RD125A models did use 396- piston and rings but these were superseded to 466- pistons and 307- rings.

One of the heads had some of the piston top "glued" to it, but with a high pressure cleaner and steel wool I was able to remove it.

Piston material welded onto cylinder head - Yamaha RD125A 1974
Piston material "welded" onto cylinder head

Yamaha RD125A cylinder head after some cleaning
Yamaha RD125A cylinder head after cleaning

Fitting the new pistons rings is always a bit of a challenge because they tend to break when you bend them to much. I used a couple of feeler gauge blades and a rubber band to slide them in the piston ring grooves.

Fitting new piston rings Yamaha RD 1974
Fitting new piston rings Yamaha RD

Fitting new piston rings Yamaha RD125
Fitting new piston rings Yamaha RD125
Fitting new piston rings Yamaha RD125A
New piston rings fitted
I also used new needle bearings, clips (ALWAYS use new clips) and good second hand piston pins.

"Inside" piston clip fitted - yamaha RD125 A
"Inside" piston clip fitted - yamaha RD125A

Small end rod needle bearings
Small end rod needle bearings 93310-11281

Before I put back a piston I have already fitted the inside clip, it's a lot easier then doing this when the piston is already on the rod.

"Inside" piston clip fitted - yamaha RD125A
"Inside" piston clip fitted - yamaha RD125A

Make sure the arrow on top of the piston is pointing towards the front of the engine and the piston ring ends are at the right spot. Fitting the barrels over the pistons is a matter of compressing the rings back in their grooves and carefully lower the barrels. The bottom of the barrels is a bit wider then the actual cylinder to make live a bit easier. Grease the cylinder walls, rod bearings, pins etc with engine assembly lube so the don't wear in the initial start up.

First cylinder back in place Yamaha RD125A
First cylinder back in place

Cylinders back in place

New head gaskets fitted - Yamaha Rd125A 1974
New head gaskets fitted - Yamaha Rd125A

Before I fitted the cylinder head I cleaned, sanded and nickel plated the cylinder head bolts. For more info about DIY nickel plating see http://yamaha-ls3.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/diy-nickel-plating-bolts-and-nuts.html


Nickel plating cylinder head bolts Yamaha RD125A
Nickel plating cylinder head bolts Yamaha RD125

Nickel plated cylinder head bolts Yamaha RD125 1974
Nickel plated cylinder head bolts Yamaha RD125

First cylinder head back in place - Yamaha RD125A
First cylinder head back in place

4 comments:

  1. Nice work buddy, I'm restoring a 1975 RD 125 too and wanted to refresh the pistons and can't find original non oversized ones. I still have to take measurement of the wear so I think I might be able to get away with new rings only? Everything looks fine but I only had 90 PSI compression on both cylinder. Looking good so far man, I'll keep an eye on your build.

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  2. Thnx. Here's a STD piston kit set on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Yamaha-Piston-Kit-STD-1975-1976-RD125-466-11630-00-00-/121591775729?hash=item1c4f6f41f1:g:RbAAAOSwqu9U9P6u&vxp=mtr
    But I think you'll need at least first oversize pistons because 90 psi is very low. Did you measure it with full trottle?. Best to ask a good engine shop to measure them for you before you buy std size.
    Good luck with your resto

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    1. I measure them, the bike only has 1500 KM on it. I bench tested the compression only, the last time the bike was started was in 89, I couldn't start it as it was too much missing parts. I took the heads off and there is very minimal wear visually inside the pistons. Cyl. 1 is 42.98 at top and 43.01 at bottom. Cyl 2. is 42.97 top and 43.01 bottom. I'll probably slap new rings and a slight hone and tackle the other things missings. One of the main jet broke in half when I tried to clean it and it's missing a condenser and point. One carb is heavily pitted but the jets seems ok.

      I'll end up doing a blog but if you're interested this was my last winter's project and reason I don't want too spend too much on this 2nd bike for now: https://cb650kustom.wordpress.com/

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    2. Nice blog about your Honda Cb650, very nice bike mate

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